Posted by: 94stranger | August 22, 2007

Sensuality

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Sensuality: How is she doing? What does she need? Does she have a dark side? What can she do for you? What can you do for her? 

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Responses

Why is he hiding his face, is he ashamed of his sexuality? I feel sad for him, poor thing.

By: dovelove on August 26, 2007
at 4:40 pm

Dove,
I’m going to apply the classic rules: ask the cards, not me, for the answer!
But I will say this: the artist - not me - in this case did her own thing regarding the hand & face thing;

Somewhere else you’ve asked quite a few questions, including some comments about the Stranger & the hermit. I’ve posted the full version of the card, together with what the stranger is about (quoted from the site) on the blog here under ‘about’ - new version.

I do feel like saying; I think you want pay day without doing the work!

I guess you’re faced with a dilemma - Rainring may be more or less worthless, in which case any time spent exploring it would perhaps count largely as wasted time. On the other hand, if you’re not ready to take the trouble to find out now, maybe in a few years you will come across something about Rainring that you feel unable to ignore, said by someone who you greatly respect, and at that point you’ll decide that the game might after all be worth the candle.

Don’t get me wrong: I shouldn’t under any circumstances be unsympathetic to anyone wanting to seriously explore my cards. However, you can’t have a meaningful dialogue with me about Rainring, any more than I can with you about the tarot, because neither of us has immersed ourselves in the other’s thing (sounds like the Jacuzzi Visiting Diplomacy Code, doesn’t it?) incidentally, Rainring is NOT derived from the tarot - BEWARE of parallels.

I know the tarot or I Ching is not to be mastered in a few short hours, and neither is Rainring. I rest my case…

P.S. I’ve enjoyed dialoguing with you, and I have no doubt that if these cards are for you, the cosmos will sort it out, with appropriate timing.

By: 94stranger on August 29, 2007
at 1:10 am

Dilemma? Payday? BEWARE? …

What the…?

Hon, you must be kidding?? Especially in your comparing these cards to the Tarot. No comparison…you haven’t a clue.

I have no depth of interest in you or what I thought were your cards. I was being kind to a “Stranger” who popped up on my blog (to obviousy promote his website). Now you’re blowing my comments waaay out of proportion. I was just giving you my honest views..

Sorry, I don’t have time for your Rain cards, and trust me, I’ll have no interest in them in the future either. But I wish ya’ luck.

Peace,
Dove

By: dovelove on August 29, 2007
at 2:36 am

Dove,

So I got slapped down and I’ll try and take my medicine without whingeing.

I feel my previous post was rather bombastic , and I regret that. Of course, you run a tarot blog and the first thing I should have done is to respect that you’re a tarot reader.

Your comment on the card Sensuality was quite perceptive. Unfortunately, I was upset by its tone, and that fed through into the way I responded - a fact, not an excuse.

To set the record straight, I outlined the general setting for this card, as I did for almost all of them. There WAS an intended differentiation between the lovers - it’s the woman who remains awake, while the guy has fallen asleep.

As you know, illustration of cards such as tarot is going to expose the psychological limitations of the artist. On the other hand, the artist brings an incalculable amount to such cards. Presumably there are so many tarot packs because there are always artists who feel that they have things to say which have not been said by others, or want to correct what they see as misconceived interpretations by previous artists.

Enough. Now I will leave you to your tarot, not pester you about my cards, and perhaps have the wisdom in future to be a bit more sensitive and discreet in any attempts I may make to involve tarot people in Rainring.

Take care

By: 94stranger on August 30, 2007
at 8:47 pm

I truly felt genuine sadness and compassion for this man in viewing this image…wondering if this was the designer’s experience. I truly felt incredibly sad, knowing that there are people who are ashamed of this beautiful part of our lives as human beings… I can’t even express how sad it is. You very much misinterpreted my “tone” and I was stunned by your response to my heartfelt statement. I often tend to see the “sleeping ones” as children, and feel kind of motherly toward them at times…and that was the nature of my “poor thing.” Again, I was feeling a genuine depth of compassion, and simply typed the words that came to me in that moment.

Again, I wish you well.

By: dovelove on August 31, 2007
at 12:27 am

The male in the card does have a certain energy to him–it’s almost as if he’s thinking about something else and not focused on the open woman that he’s reaching up toward. She is looking at him, with a look that reminds me that she is not yet frustrated but she is wanting him to turn his attentions toward her.

She seems to depict Sensuality, in her openness, her limberness. Maybe he is the contrast, being pulled inward (with his shoulder and his eyes and expression).

By: ybonesy on September 2, 2007
at 2:53 pm

How interesting yb!
So you have a completely different take on this image.
My feeling is that if possible, images like this on cards SHOULD have that quality of ambiguity which allows each person to project into them from their own personal feelings and experiences. I must say I’m relieved that this image has very different connotations for you than for Dovelove, because this implies that the image is not directing the viewer in a highly specific way.

As I think you picked up, at the end of the day, this image of sensuality is intended to depict sensuality, not tell a highly specific story.
What is always a bit tricky is that the artist’s own psychological profile is bound to intrude into the image, so that from the point of view of the person commissioning the image, there is a line which the illustrator must not pass.
If you compare the two images on the links below - the first rejected and the second accepted, they reflect an occasion when I felt that the personal agenda had gone too far. Tell me what you think?

http://www.rainringcards.com/Foundations.aspx
http://www.rainringcards.com/Cards/Passion/20.aspx

By: 94stranger on September 3, 2007
at 7:57 am

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